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Leveling won't follow a traditional linear path, although classic mechanics for leveling exist.[2][3]
- Leveling: the act of of going out and adventuring, of killing monsters, and combat in general is the most tactile and moment-to-moment type of gameplay that you're going to experience in Ashes of Creation; and I think at every step of the way in that adventure it should be fun, and it should be something that you enjoy doing, and it should be something that's rewarding, and it should be something that teaches you more about the immersive world that you're in and allows you to follow a compelling storyline.[4] – Steven Sharif
- Players will have the option to rush their vertical progression to level cap or spend time building infrastructure through horizontal progression.[5][2][6][7]
- Experience (XP) is gained through a variety of vertical and horizontal progression paths, such as PvP, PvE, Exploration, Gathering/Processing/Crafting, Events/Quests, Grinding mobs.[8][2][9][10]
- XP will be awarded for participating in objective-based PvP on a diminishing returns basis.[9]
- A character's level is visible to other players.[11]
- Some levels may offer more rewards than others.[12]
- I think you can emphasize some levels more than others and that's a great way to do progression. But I think ultimately that you should see a reward for your progress or effort spent.[12] – Steven Sharif
- There will not be level boosts or auto-leveling (AFK leveling).[13][14]
- As part of our ideals as a game we're not going to give boosts away. We're not going to auto-level up a character. You have to spend time acclimating yourself to what this game is, to what the world that you're part of is; and that's an investment- a time investment; and that plays towards our ideas of risk-versus-reward; and I've always said our game's not going to be for everybody and that's okay.[13] – Steven Sharif
- If I have a skill that does a thousand damage to a target of equal level I don't want my skill to do zero damage to a target that's five levels above me.[15] – Steven Sharif
- A player could in theory level to max level at a single node, providing that node was at a high-enough stage, but it would not be the most effective means of leveling.[16]
Level cap
The level cap at launch is expected to be level 50.[17][18]
- On release the developers anticipate max level should be attainable in approximately 45 days if playing 4-6 hours per day.[19][20]
- The developers estimate that players will reach level cap before a quarter of nodes reach Village (scena 3).[17]
- Alpha-1 had progression to level 15.[21]
- Alpha-2 expects progression to level 30 (subject to change).[22] Previously this was stated to be level 35.[23][24]
Lower level characters will have usefulness in mass combat (such as Node sieges) that is not directly dependent on their level, such as manning siege weapons, helping repair fortifications, bringing proximity-based buffs to key positions, using stealth or scaling walls. These types of things are relevant to the tide of battle and do not require the player to be max-level or have high combat stats.[25]
- The idea is not to be a game where somebody can essentially no life for a week and be max level. The idea is to incorporate some significant chunk of time but still respect the casual player, because the way we respect the casual player is not everything is driven in our game through the adventuring progression line. Not everything is driven through your class level per-se. There's a lot of different progression paths that are available and make you relevant within certain systems and mechanics within the game; and some of those paths are more casual friendly and some of those paths are more hardcore friendly. So with regards to the adventuring class, the idea is to make sure that investment needs to be pretty significant and that the reward then is respective of that investment.[19] – Steven Sharif
End game
Ashes of Creation will not have a typical end-game where content is essentially static and repetitive. Instead, max-level characters will be able to engage with many different gameplay loops that open up based on how the world progresses over time.[26][27]
- Endgame to me communicates static. It is static structure. Okay, you've entered this loop, now and this is your end-game loop that you will repeat over and over. Whereas instead, the approach for Ashes is you have now reached a point where all of these loops are relevant; and the loops are present to you depending on how the community engages the world. And it's up to you to identify the most promising loops because you have a finite amount of time and resources in which you can engage with them. And that's then where strategy becomes a part of the picture: How will I choose to engage with these loops to maximize my return, or to maximize the specific benefit I wish to bring in individual, group, myself, or guild.[26] – Steven Sharif
- Part of the whole experience with nodes is that there is no real end-game, in that the world is constantly shifting every day. Month one is going to be really different from month two; and that's for the level 50s and level 1s.[27] – Jeffrey Bard
Grinding
Repetition will not be part of progression in Ashes of Creation.[28]
- There will be no "grindy" quests.[28]
- There will not be repetitive quest lines through a single dungeon to obtain gear.[29]
- The aspiration is to have more things to do in the game than a player has time to do.[28]
Mentor program/ level scaling
There will be a mentorship program where upper-level players are able to benefit from partying and/or helping lower level players; and getting them situated in the game.[27]
- Certain node buildings and organizations offer quests that can be initiated by a mentor to assist new players. Rewards are offered to both the mentor and the mentee upon completion.[30]
- There will be activities that are present for higher level players to mentor lower level players. Let's say you have a friend who joins later on and you still want to do things with them, there will be things to do. Will he be able to enter a dungeon of your level and participate? No, because we don't want to inflate or deflate characters and manipulate that type of skill or power. We want that to be something that makes sense for them in a progression standpoint.[31] – Steven Sharif
- The mentorship program provides individual quests that can be initiated by the mentor based off of what node that they are part of. So these are like quests that are determined by either certain buildings and/or organizations or the mayor; and there are specific ones that are available for mentors to provide mentees; and they can also participate in some of those quest lines as well: Whether that be leading your mentee through a dungeon or providing a location for them to arrive with you at, or escort quests for the NPC caravans. These types of things, when done together with your mentor, will provide benefits both for the mentor and the mentee as well, so you're incentivized to participate with new players.[30] – Steven Sharif
Class progression
Class progression in Ashes of Creation proceeds as follows:[32]
- Players receive skill points as they level. These can be used to level up skills within their skill tree.[37]
- It will not be possible to max all skills in a skill tree.[37]
- A player may choose a secondary archetype when they reach level 25.[32][33] The combination of primary and secondary archetypes is referred to as a class.[33][36][38]
- The secondary archetype does not provide additional skills.[39]
- Secondary archetypes may be changed, but not "on-the-fly".[35][40]
- The player can then augment their primary skills with effects from their secondary archetype.[33][34]
- Class progression does not relate to a player's artisan progression.[41]
- World events do not directly impact class effectiveness but there may be ancillary effects in terms of availability of equipment, enchantments or tattoos.[42]
Zones and progression
Dungeons, Raids, World bosses, Mobs, Quests, Events, Resources, Narratives and other content within a node's ZOI will have a diverse level range; but will scale with the advancement of that node and its racial influence.[43][44][45]
- Portions of the spawn tables (for mobs and resources) are static and other portions are dynamic and adapt to node development.[46]
- We don’t have a strictly level 25 zone. Instead, that zone might have some level 10 creatures near the road, some level 20 creatures deep in the forest, and some level 30 creatures up the mountain. These ratios will change based on the Nodes that inform them, becoming generally more dangerous as the Node grows. All this civilization attracts the attention of Things-That-Should-Not-Be. This does not mean that wilderness areas are safe, by any means. Some may be safe-er, but all will have dangers that even the most experienced traveler needs to watch out for.[47] – Steven Sharif
There will be a mix of different monsters and difficulty levels throughout the world that are tied to the development of nearby nodes. As nodes advance, mobs will present new and increasing dangers that players can participate in.[51]
- In the world naturally there will be locations that are going to have a mix of different levels of monsters and difficulty levels; and then those spawn tables relate to the development of nearby nodes. So as nodes develop they'll be changing the spawn tables around them to reflect their further development in the world, presenting new and more difficult dangers that the players can participate in.[51] – Steven Sharif
- Not all creatures are immediately hostile to players.[52][53] Some creatures may hunt other creatures.[54]
- We've talked about this a little bit in the past when talking about taming and/or certain types of like creature gatherable resources there are herds that exist out there. There are big game that exist out there, where they're not going to aggro and attack you per-se. Also lower level monsters and certain type of like social monsters may not attack you off the bat.[53] – Steven Sharif
- There will be flying mobs, but not in terms of requiring a flying mount to engage them.[55]
- We will have flying monsters but essentially what that means is there's going to be rotations either in the behavior tree that might make them inaccessible to targets, or they might do some like swooping attacks; they might come and land on the ground and fight you. But generally monsters are going to be accessible from on the ground, so we're not creating content for the limited number of individuals who are going to have access to a flying mount.[55] – Steven Sharif
- Certain world bosses and elite monsters will path/roam throughout the world.[56][48] Other mobs will have leashes that will cause the mob to reset if it moves too far from its point of origin.[57]
- Leashes are relevant. There's other gameplay implications that happen when you're able to actually move populations around. We don't want to really give that to the players perspective.[57] – Steven Sharif
- In general, mobs will not leave footprints or cause screen-shake; but larger monsters and bosses may do.[59][60] Screen shake will be customizable in user interface settings.[59][61][62]
- There is something to be had there about those types of screen-shake effects. We want them to be present when we're emphasizing certain things, but we don't want them to be a nuisance, or annoying, or too plentiful; and having screen-shake apply to every step would probably be too abundant. Will players have control over those on-screen type effects? Yeah I think so. I think that's something we want to provision as a customizable option for players to be able to turn off, because it can be somewhat nauseating for certain groups of people and a distraction from what's happening in the world.[59] – Steven Sharif
- Average non-elite mob time-to-kill for a solo player is intended to be around 6 seconds.[63]
- Certain bosses and creatures will have voice lines along with other audio cues.[64]
Class abilities
Primary skills (class abilities) are based on a player's archetype.[68][34]
- A player may choose a secondary archetype when they reach level 25.[32][33] The player can then augment their primary skills with effects from their secondary archetype.[68][32][33][34][69]
- Outside of class-specific skills there may be a subset of universal skills, such as active block and dodge.[70]
- Class skills are not affected by the type of weapon that is equipped.[71]
- Primary skills in Alpha-2 are expected to be very different to those in Alpha-1.[72]
Rested experience
Taverns offer rested experience (rested XP) for those who rent rooms or spend time as patrons of the tavern.[73][74]
- Rested experience allows players to gain experience at a faster rate for a period of time.[74]
- There are no current plans to replace rested experience with another bonus for max-level players.[75]
- Rested experience increases the rate that experience debt is paid back.[76]
Pet progression
Combat pets will be levelable and will have gear available to them.[77][78]
- Combat pets will incorporate some of their owner's power in a way that keeps the power progression horizontal.[79][80][81]
- Power is delegated to the pet when it is summoned and returned to the player immediately when the pet despawns.[82]
Summoner summons (Summoner pets) do add to the summoner's power when they are summoned.[79]
Combat pets, which can be acquired by any archetype- and this is essentially an item that exists within your backpack- you cast the item to summon your pet. When it is summoned it's not intended to be a vertical gain of power, because when you make combat pets a vertical power gain, then it becomes a no choice solution: you must have a combat pet if you want to play efficiently- you must have a combat pet; and I wanted to steer clear of that because the way I wanted to approach combat pets was more of a horizontal power choice; meaning: depending on the type of encounter you're facing, depending on the threat assessment you have, a combat pet might be relevant, or it might not. One combat combat pet might be more relevant than another combat pet and that's part of your gear acquisition, your item chase to attain this more comprehensive selection of combat pets that you can have available to you and can be summoned in the event that you want to engage an encounter with a different aspect of your power curve: Not vertical, but horizontal.[79] – Steven Sharif
See also
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